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	<title>Comments on: Printable logos</title>
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		<title>By: Stanton</title>
		<link>http://coffeepowered.co.uk/2009/08/printable-logos/comment-page-1/#comment-596</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aha, interesting! I&#039;ll have to look into that :) cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha, interesting! I&#8217;ll have to look into that <img src='http://coffeepowered.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Bjørn Johansen</title>
		<link>http://coffeepowered.co.uk/2009/08/printable-logos/comment-page-1/#comment-595</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjørn Johansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some browsers (Opera at least) does not download (and cache) images that has display:none, so on the print version the image will be missing.

I&#039;m using a small js to fix this:


var img = new Image(&#039;logo_white.png&#039;);


This way the browser will download the image and correctly display it on the print version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some browsers (Opera at least) does not download (and cache) images that has display:none, so on the print version the image will be missing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m using a small js to fix this:</p>
<p>var img = new Image(&#8216;logo_white.png&#8217;);</p>
<p>This way the browser will download the image and correctly display it on the print version.</p>
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		<title>By: Stanton</title>
		<link>http://coffeepowered.co.uk/2009/08/printable-logos/comment-page-1/#comment-592</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your input! As I mentioned, this site would naturally rank for the &#039;University of Leeds&#039; keyword in google, and I did chat with an SEO friend of mine who pointed out that there&#039;d be little to no disadvantage in not having this as a H1 tag for our situation. 

A CSS border wouldn&#039;t really solve the dark logo on white backround issue, so we&#039;d still need two logo&#039;s regardless of method so it&#039;s not really causing us more work to maintain this in the long run.

For most situations I&#039;d agree that this might not be suitable for everyone, but hey, it might be useful for someone :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your input! As I mentioned, this site would naturally rank for the &#8216;University of Leeds&#8217; keyword in google, and I did chat with an SEO friend of mine who pointed out that there&#8217;d be little to no disadvantage in not having this as a H1 tag for our situation. </p>
<p>A CSS border wouldn&#8217;t really solve the dark logo on white backround issue, so we&#8217;d still need two logo&#8217;s regardless of method so it&#8217;s not really causing us more work to maintain this in the long run.</p>
<p>For most situations I&#8217;d agree that this might not be suitable for everyone, but hey, it might be useful for someone <img src='http://coffeepowered.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Medden</title>
		<link>http://coffeepowered.co.uk/2009/08/printable-logos/comment-page-1/#comment-590</link>
		<dc:creator>Medden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick question about this method.  
Don&#039;t google check for display:none entities and ignore their content?
Otherwise it makes very it easy to stuff keywords high up in H1 tags on any page, and just hide that with css.

Using two methods like this also leads to much confusion if the logo is ever updated at a later date. 

I would personally just put a css border round your  white  for the print.css   I think borders still print out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick question about this method.<br />
Don&#8217;t google check for display:none entities and ignore their content?<br />
Otherwise it makes very it easy to stuff keywords high up in H1 tags on any page, and just hide that with css.</p>
<p>Using two methods like this also leads to much confusion if the logo is ever updated at a later date. </p>
<p>I would personally just put a css border round your  white  for the print.css   I think borders still print out.</p>
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		<title>By: Stanton</title>
		<link>http://coffeepowered.co.uk/2009/08/printable-logos/comment-page-1/#comment-582</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@yaili that&#039;s quite a nice solution, it wouldn&#039;t be ideal for the UoL site I don&#039;t think, but I might borrow that one for other projects :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@yaili that&#8217;s quite a nice solution, it wouldn&#8217;t be ideal for the UoL site I don&#8217;t think, but I might borrow that one for other projects <img src='http://coffeepowered.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Yaili</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yaili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still struggle when I&#039;m not allowed to use the h1 tag for the logo, or company&#039;s name. It feels awkward to place it in a random div.

As for the print stylesheets, I tend to use either image replacement on the h1 tag or add an image inside the h1/div#logo.
I also add a hidden div bellow that with the printable version of the logo, usually black and white.
So when you print it you&#039;ll get the title of the page (that comes with the alt of the image or the text within the h1) and then the logo.

I guess it depends on how you think your website is going to be used when printed, but this is usually good enough for my projects :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still struggle when I&#8217;m not allowed to use the h1 tag for the logo, or company&#8217;s name. It feels awkward to place it in a random div.</p>
<p>As for the print stylesheets, I tend to use either image replacement on the h1 tag or add an image inside the h1/div#logo.<br />
I also add a hidden div bellow that with the printable version of the logo, usually black and white.<br />
So when you print it you&#8217;ll get the title of the page (that comes with the alt of the image or the text within the h1) and then the logo.</p>
<p>I guess it depends on how you think your website is going to be used when printed, but this is usually good enough for my projects <img src='http://coffeepowered.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stanton</title>
		<link>http://coffeepowered.co.uk/2009/08/printable-logos/comment-page-1/#comment-579</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this has the potential to evolve into a semantic debate so I&#039;d be interested in hearing wether people would still keep a header tag in with the logo.

Because our logo also contains the &quot;University of Leeds&quot; title I chose not to include a header tag also.

I&#039;d think as long as the logo has the neccesary alt tags and title attributes then this would be enough meaningful markup, our pages have title attributes along the line of &quot;Page title - University of Leeds&quot; and are chock full of metadata, both general and &lt;a href=&quot;http://dublincore.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dublin Core&lt;/a&gt;

I wanted to avoid a situation where if CSS was disabled, then the user would get the logo (which has the UoL text) and a header tag repeating the UoL text).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this has the potential to evolve into a semantic debate so I&#8217;d be interested in hearing wether people would still keep a header tag in with the logo.</p>
<p>Because our logo also contains the &#8220;University of Leeds&#8221; title I chose not to include a header tag also.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d think as long as the logo has the neccesary alt tags and title attributes then this would be enough meaningful markup, our pages have title attributes along the line of &#8220;Page title &#8211; University of Leeds&#8221; and are chock full of metadata, both general and <a href="http://dublincore.org/" rel="nofollow">Dublin Core</a></p>
<p>I wanted to avoid a situation where if CSS was disabled, then the user would get the logo (which has the UoL text) and a header tag repeating the UoL text).</p>
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		<title>By: Ad Taylor</title>
		<link>http://coffeepowered.co.uk/2009/08/printable-logos/comment-page-1/#comment-578</link>
		<dc:creator>Ad Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good call — I have been thinking about this myself recently too.

The issue I see with this is that you have made your mark-up less meaningful. Striping out the header tag and the &#039;University of Leeds&#039; text. OR am I missing the point and you are going to use both the H2 image replacement and the hidden image?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call — I have been thinking about this myself recently too.</p>
<p>The issue I see with this is that you have made your mark-up less meaningful. Striping out the header tag and the &#8216;University of Leeds&#8217; text. OR am I missing the point and you are going to use both the H2 image replacement and the hidden image?</p>
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